Kids Computer Part 1: The Hardware

Posted on Wednesday, June 15th, 2005 at 10:35 pm under Mac Geekery, Tutorials.
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Last week, upon returning from a trip to New York I told my daughter to make a list of fun things we could do together. It was daddy and daughter day. Her number two item on the list, the Apple Store. She loves hanging out in the kids area while daddy drools over new gear. Needless to say, she is very computer savvy for her age.

Determining what computer a kid should have and at what age is a very tricky and personal matter. It varies from kid to kid and from parent to parent. For example, my daughter(5 years old) has yet to break anything on her iMac. However, my son(2 years old) has gone through 3 keyboards, two mice and has filled up the DVD drive with coins (a common trait amongst boys i’ve found). They each have had their own iMac since day one. These old iMacs are sturdy and durable. And although 12 gigs is not that much hard disk space, it can hold a good 10 to 15 game CD images.

Kids Desktop

This is Part 1 in a series for a kids Mac setup.

The Kids Gear

Imac

iMac G3 SE 400 MHz ($200 @ eBay), 256 RAM, 12 Gig Drive, Airport Card

iSkin
iSkin Keyboard Protector ($27 @ Amazon, fits only the new keyboards not the original iMac keyboards)

the very cool ikea round tables

Ikea Round Table (not available online)

How long will the iMacs last?
Right now these old iMacs serves us good. They recently got updated to the latest Mac OS X Tiger and they zip along just fine for having only 256 of RAM. They chuck a bit during some new games like The Incredibles, but for the most part, kids games like Dora the Explorer are a lot less demanding than grown up games. For a couple of hundred dollars the iMac could be upgraded with more RAM and bigger Hard Drive, but I personally wouldn’t spend any more money on them and rather use that money towards a replacement in the next year or so. My daughter is about to turn six and I recently set her up with email and aim (with parental controls). She uses these (under supervision) to communicate with her grandparents and aunties who live in other states. This is where the iMac starts to drag. Because of the processor speed, she can do voice chat but not video. She can receive pictures through email, but accessing my shared iPhoto library to send some images is impossible. Next year I want her to learn to edit some videos but she will have to do that in mine because her iMac is not up to the task. So most likely she will be getting a faster computer in a year to handle all these new tasks. As for Dante, well, he will be looking at a Graphite iMac for a few more years to come or until his iMac dies.

the kids area

The Setup
I have saved all their games into the computer as disc images. This has required some mad CD ripping skills I will be sharing in my next post. Armed with an array of custom icons, no docks, a very cool app launcher and parental control for mail, chat and web, this kids computers are very cool indeed. Not swapping discs(not an option for Dante anyway) needed, all disc images get loaded at startup so all they have to do is click on an icon and play.

Anika with her iMac

Next post: disc imaging secrets

p.s. I’ve tried to track down the flash based launcher used at the kids computer Apple Store with no luck. Any leads are appreciated.

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19 Responses to “Kids Computer Part 1: The Hardware”

  1. gravatar Flag Alex
    Jun 16th, 2005 at 12:35 am

    Melvin,

    How do you get the desktop to display the icons in the middle of the screen, similar to the icons on the desktop on the macs at the apple store?

  2. gravatar Flag Melvin - All Forces
    Jun 16th, 2005 at 12:45 am

    i used DockTop, a cool little launcher. I will be posting about that on Part 3.

  3. gravatar Flag Charles Gerungan
    Jun 16th, 2005 at 2:43 pm

    Very interesting. I’ve got a 4.5 year old, and she loves playing with computers. So anything that will make her experience more enjoyable I’ll take!

  4. gravatar Flag Grupo de usuarios Macintosh de Colombia
    Jun 17th, 2005 at 4:38 am

    Nueva vida para los iMacs

    Para todos aquellos que alguna vez han estado pensando que hacer con sus viejos iMacs, con maquinas que oscilan entre los 6 GB y los 10 GB e aquí un articulo, que promete ser parte de una serie dedicada a los computadores para niños, el cual los p…

  5. gravatar Flag Mike
    Jun 27th, 2005 at 9:14 am

    I am trying to do the same thing for my son. In addition to using DockTop I would like to be able to disable the menu bar and Dock. Of course I can hide the dock but my 3 year old is way to clever. I poked around xCode and found a function to totally hide the Dock and the Menu Bar but it only stays hidden while my compiled app has focus, click on anything else and the Dock/Menu reappears. Any suggestions? I did create an AppleScript app to log out which I added as an icon to DockTop to address the issue of not having the menu available.

    Many thanks and I very much enjoyed your first two installments.

    Mike

  6. gravatar Flag Barry
    Jun 27th, 2005 at 1:55 pm

    I cant wait for part 3 regarding the use of DockTop. I just purchases it and have the same questions on how you have 3 menues up I can get three but when I log back in they are all the same as the last one saved. Also how do you hide the Dock permanently and make sure spotlight is not an avenue to launch programs.

  7. gravatar Flag Melvin - All Forces
    Jun 27th, 2005 at 8:26 pm

    I can get three but when I log back in they are all the same as the last one saved

    To run it in three rows, duplicate the app twice so that you have DockTop, DockTop Copy and DockTop Copy 1. Launch the apps one by one and edit the preferences of each one to add the applications to each row. DockTop should keep separate preferences for each so the apps you select on the first ones are associated to that copy of DockTop only.

    how do you hide the Dock permanently

    I’m using DockBlock, a little app that runs from the menubar. It allows you to disable, hide or show the Dock.

    make sure spotlight is not an avenue to launch programs

    Hum, I haven’t really looked into this. You can have Spotlight not look into the hard drive by specifying it in the spotlight preferences(available from the spotlight results). I’m sure there’s a way to disable it as well. You can also limit the user to only a few applications but this tends to conflict with games from disc images. Remember, we’re not building a fort knox kiosk here, just a limited permissions kids computer. More to come soon, I would appreciate if you guys point out any specifics you might be interested in like the Spotlight issue.

  8. gravatar Flag Mike
    Jun 28th, 2005 at 2:02 pm

    Ok, I’m stumped. How did you hide the volumes on the Desktop?

  9. gravatar Flag Melvin - All Forces
    Jun 28th, 2005 at 2:27 pm

    From the Finder select Preferences > General and deselect Hard Disks, CDS and Connected Servers from the “SHow these items on the Desktop”

  10. gravatar Flag Mike
    Jun 29th, 2005 at 2:31 pm

    Duh! I can’t believe I missed that! Thanks!

  11. gravatar Flag Melvin - All Forces
    Jul 1st, 2005 at 11:54 am

    Barry, you were right. After relaunching, DockTop will only remember one of the settings and not all three. Jonathan Nathan, author of DockTop read this post and has built a quick Applescript called Multiply DockTop, a little script that will duplicate DockTop and assign new Bunddle IDs so that they each retain their preferences. Thanks Jonathan.

  12. gravatar Flag Creig
    Jul 12th, 2005 at 9:30 pm

    I’d like to share that this post and part two inspired me to buy a snow iMac for my daughter (turns 4 in September). I’ve got a PowerBook and Mom’s got an iBook, and neither of us are totally comfortable letting the little one have at it with our expensive laptops. So since I work at an Apple reseller, I was able to get a used 500mhz G3 Snow iMac for her for cheap, upgrade the RAM to 512 for cheap, and it came with a 30gb hard drive.

    Anyway, she doesn’t have the computer YET (maybe a birthday present?), but she probably wouldn’t have it at all if it weren’t for me stumbling across this post. I thank you, and so do my daughter and wife.

  13. gravatar Flag Melvin - All Forces
    Jul 13th, 2005 at 5:32 am

    creig, you are very welcome. i will hopefullt post the 3rd part about software later this week.

  14. gravatar Flag Lori Watts
    Oct 22nd, 2005 at 9:01 am

    Melvin - How do you get the disk images to automatically mount and load at startup? Are you still planning to post Part 3? Thanks for all the great suggestions!

  15. gravatar Flag jessica
    Jan 28th, 2006 at 11:27 am

    where can reach those cute carton icons?
    Thanks in advance.

  16. gravatar Flag Oliver
    Feb 9th, 2006 at 11:11 pm

    I’m so close to setting up something similar for my 6yr old. The thing that has me stumpped is how to get each application to open in the correct resolution, then return to the original resolution when exiting. Any help on this would be soooooo much appreciated!

  17. gravatar Flag billc
    Feb 27th, 2006 at 1:47 pm

    I spent a long weekend grinding out some issues on Kids Computer 2.

    But with respect above question, I have ticked off the icons for hard drive, cds and mounted drives so the kids dont change their names inadvertently. (ask me how I know). With reolutions, the games sometimes dumb down the resolution to 800×600 and when the game exits, the screen is garbage. Also, some leave the resolution the same and switch the colors from Millions to 256 which is rally annyoing. I tried to find an automator script to automatically put those back after the game runs, but no luck. (does anyone know?)

    As described in Kids Computer2, I have made disk images for almost all of my kids games and i write an Automator script to mount the image, and then launch the application. Without this, the kids have to navigate the disk image folder, blah blah blah. iot works great for most games, some of them are hopelessly copt-protected (like Barbie games). I’ll post more secerts that I have found to Kids Compuer 2 comments.

  18. gravatar Flag billc
    Feb 27th, 2006 at 1:49 pm

    One more thing on resolution. On (Apple)/System Preferences/Display you can check ON to show the display resolutions in the header bar. The kids are OK with switching it back to millions of colors if it gets swapped to 256. Need a script for that!

  19. gravatar Flag Oldbarbos
    Mar 4th, 2008 at 3:14 am

    It is very interesting site for kids.

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